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		<title>By: T Chow</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>T Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ant:

If you were thinking I was the sloppy one, then I don&#039;t think that was the case.  I am merely collecting quotes from On the Issues, but I frankly don&#039;t have the time to pull speech transcripts and see where and when Biden identifies Bush.  I don&#039;t think its a sloppiness issue as much as it is an efficiency one.

But in terms that Bush and Clinton capitulated to China, I do agree that they have.  However, my concern is that the next administration (which could be McCain/Palin for that matter) won&#039;t really be able to do all that much anyways.  I tend to think that its economics and MNC&#039;s that have far more influence than a presidential administration, and I really don&#039;t see any alternatives.  Until American consumers are willing to pay higher prices (not going to happen), China...  or whatever country becomes the next China, will maintain its grip on America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ant:</p>
<p>If you were thinking I was the sloppy one, then I don&#8217;t think that was the case.  I am merely collecting quotes from On the Issues, but I frankly don&#8217;t have the time to pull speech transcripts and see where and when Biden identifies Bush.  I don&#8217;t think its a sloppiness issue as much as it is an efficiency one.</p>
<p>But in terms that Bush and Clinton capitulated to China, I do agree that they have.  However, my concern is that the next administration (which could be McCain/Palin for that matter) won&#8217;t really be able to do all that much anyways.  I tend to think that its economics and MNC&#8217;s that have far more influence than a presidential administration, and I really don&#8217;t see any alternatives.  Until American consumers are willing to pay higher prices (not going to happen), China&#8230;  or whatever country becomes the next China, will maintain its grip on America.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ant</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel personally represented by Biden&#039;s stance on China, and am glad to learn of the hard-line that, theoretically, he would take with it.  I feel very strongly that America needs to back away from China, and yes, I do feel that Bush (and Clinton before him) have capitulated to China, and that the house has been mortgaged to China (they possess billions in Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac bonds).  

It should be pointed out to the editor that nowhere in the material quoted by Biden does he blame Bush for the trade deficit.  Clearly, he only mentions that too much debt has been bought up by China.  Sloppy of you.  

Though the feasibility of decoupling from the Chinese economy is highly dubious- not as long as China can provide reasonable quality goods at a bargain price -   the next administration (Obama/Biden) has to find a way to back out of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel personally represented by Biden&#8217;s stance on China, and am glad to learn of the hard-line that, theoretically, he would take with it.  I feel very strongly that America needs to back away from China, and yes, I do feel that Bush (and Clinton before him) have capitulated to China, and that the house has been mortgaged to China (they possess billions in Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac bonds).  </p>
<p>It should be pointed out to the editor that nowhere in the material quoted by Biden does he blame Bush for the trade deficit.  Clearly, he only mentions that too much debt has been bought up by China.  Sloppy of you.  </p>
<p>Though the feasibility of decoupling from the Chinese economy is highly dubious- not as long as China can provide reasonable quality goods at a bargain price &#8211;   the next administration (Obama/Biden) has to find a way to back out of China.</p>
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		<title>By: China and the American Election &#171; China Comment</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>China and the American Election &#171; China Comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Biden&#8217;s China Stances - at China Esquire. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CER links: NIMBY protests, US election - China Economic Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>CER links: NIMBY protests, US election - China Economic Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] joe biden’s china stances &#124; CHINA ESQUIRE - Senator Joe Biden, the Democrat vice presidential candidate, on China [...]</description>
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		<title>By: T Chow</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>T Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of the commenters who say that its just anti-China rhetoric for the campaign season.  It just irks me that politicians have to do this to win votes from uneducated voters, and can still get away with this garbage.  (outside of the &quot;read my lips&quot; stuff for which George H.W. got skewered)

Micah:

I should clarify--the cooler, more innovative toys are often being sold by American companies and other MNCs, but still made in China.  Until other areas like Vietnam really step up their infrastructure, Made in China will be the dominant reality for toy companies in the near future.

Also, my thought is that Biden could also be referring to other sorts of enforcement like criminal prosecutions for faulty toys.  (like the pet food cases)  But the problem is that its not clear what he is talking about... and again, he is blowing a lot of hot air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of the commenters who say that its just anti-China rhetoric for the campaign season.  It just irks me that politicians have to do this to win votes from uneducated voters, and can still get away with this garbage.  (outside of the &#8220;read my lips&#8221; stuff for which George H.W. got skewered)</p>
<p>Micah:</p>
<p>I should clarify&#8211;the cooler, more innovative toys are often being sold by American companies and other MNCs, but still made in China.  Until other areas like Vietnam really step up their infrastructure, Made in China will be the dominant reality for toy companies in the near future.</p>
<p>Also, my thought is that Biden could also be referring to other sorts of enforcement like criminal prosecutions for faulty toys.  (like the pet food cases)  But the problem is that its not clear what he is talking about&#8230; and again, he is blowing a lot of hot air.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t do his homework, and copied from the rest of the politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t do his homework, and copied from the rest of the politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Acceptance Speech &#38; China &#124; China Stocks Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Acceptance Speech &#38; China &#124; China Stocks Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Tom Chow on Joe Biden&#8217;s China views during the primaries. And see me on views espoused by the Democratic candidates during the NPR primary debate.    Rating [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Acceptance Speech &#38; China &#124; 1800blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Acceptance Speech &#38; China &#124; 1800blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Tom Chow on Joe Biden&#8217;s China views during the primaries. And see me on views espoused by the Democratic candidates during the NPR primary [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.chinalawandbusiness.com/2008/08/joe-bidens-china-stances/comment-page-1/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look for the anti-China rhetoric to switch focus from product safety to job loss.  As the economy shifts (ie - falls) it will be less about consumption and more about income.  Still all negative and mostly inaccurate, but different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for the anti-China rhetoric to switch focus from product safety to job loss.  As the economy shifts (ie &#8211; falls) it will be less about consumption and more about income.  Still all negative and mostly inaccurate, but different.</p>
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		<title>By: Posts of the Week: 8/18 - 8/24 &#124; 1800blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Posts of the Week: 8/18 - 8/24 &#124; 1800blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] joe biden’s china stances at China Esquire Obama made a good choice with Biden. Biden can cover a lot of Obama&#8217;s weaknesses. Let&#8217;s hope Obama makes another good choice in his China people. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Micah Sittig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah Sittig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Or perhaps the US FDA needs to move its tail on those inspections that it never did.

I think that&#039;s what he was talking about.

&gt; Cooler, more innovative, and cheaper toys?

I don&#039;t think China designs cooler or more innovative toys.  Cheap, yes, but not the other two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Or perhaps the US FDA needs to move its tail on those inspections that it never did.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s what he was talking about.</p>
<p>&gt; Cooler, more innovative, and cheaper toys?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think China designs cooler or more innovative toys.  Cheap, yes, but not the other two.</p>
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		<title>By: China Journal : Best of the China Blogs: August 25</title>
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		<dc:creator>China Journal : Best of the China Blogs: August 25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the other momentous news of the moment: Obama’s veep choice Joe Biden, and where he stands on China [China Esquire]  &#8211;Sky Canaves      Permalink  &#124; Trackback URL: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s the usual tough-on-China rhetoric that all the candidates make - especially during Democratic primary season. As we&#039;ve seen in the past, once they get elected to the White House these statements and promises disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the usual tough-on-China rhetoric that all the candidates make &#8211; especially during Democratic primary season. As we&#8217;ve seen in the past, once they get elected to the White House these statements and promises disappear.</p>
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